资料出处:
http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/hacksaw-ridge/1、电影演员与真实人物原型
2、戴斯蒙德·道斯参军的原因
"I felt like it was an honor to serve God and country," Desmond said. "We were fightin' for our religious liberty and freedom."
为上帝与国家服务,为宗教与自由而战。
3、拒绝持枪的原因
he refused to carry a weapon because of his personal and religious beliefs as a Seventh-day Adventist
信奉基督复临安息日会。
I wanna be like Christ go savin' life instead of takin' life and that's the reason I take up medicine."
不要杀人,而是要像耶稣一样拯救世人。
Desmond believed that his father would've killed his uncle (his mother's brother) if his mother hadn't stepped in. Desmond vowed that would be the last time he ever touched a gun.
小时候看见父亲差点拿枪打死舅舅,从此发誓不碰枪。电影里舅舅的角色换成了母亲。
4、戴斯蒙德·道斯参军前就一直喜欢助人为乐吗?
Yes. "He was always helpful to people," said his brother Harold
哈尔·道斯的证实。
Instead, Desmond took after his mother, Bertha Doss, who taught him about compassion, helping others, and the importance of following Christ.
母亲教育他要有怜悯之心,帮助他人,信耶稣。
His sister Audrey recalled a time when they were young and Desmond went the extra mile to help victims of an accident.
他的sister奥黛丽的证实:徒步去3英里外的医院献血。献血这段电影里有拍出来。
5、现实中的多萝西是护士吗?
Dorothy Schutte was not a nurse when she met Desmond. She didn't get her nursing degree until years later, after the war, when she needed to help support their family. Desmond's injuries and disabilities from the war left him unable to have a full-time job.
起初不是,战后戴斯蒙德·道斯受伤无法全职工作,多萝西为了养家考取了护士资格。
6、现实中两人什么时候结的婚?
The Hacksaw Ridge true story reveals that Desmond Doss married Dorothy Schutte on August 17, 1942, before going on active duty.
两人第一次相遇于林奇堡的一间教堂,1942年8月17日两人结婚,和电影里不同的是,此时戴斯蒙德·道斯还没有前往部队服役。
7、因为拒服兵役而被送往conscientious objectors camp?
Yes, but he tried to explain to the army that he still wanted to be in the military and do his part, just without having to kill.
通过不断解释,最终留在了军队,但他仍然是conscientious objector。
8、现实中真的有被队友欺负吗?
"You know, he'd say his prayers at night and everything, and some guys took their shoes and threw shoes at him and threw things at him, made fun of him right out in the open,"
队友嘲笑他,扔鞋子,但是没有电影里掀床和殴打这些情节。
After a month of being in the infantry, the army decided to grant him his wish and transferred him back to the medical corps.
一个月后,他被转为医疗兵。
9、星期六拒绝工作?
Yes. As a Seventh-day Adventist, he believed in an adherence to the Fourth Commandment, which says to keep the Sabbath day holy. This meant from sundown Friday until sundown Saturday, he devoted himself to prayer.
是的,电影里也有讲到,是因为信教的原因,不过captain不同意他这样做。
10、Jack Glover(萨姆沃辛顿饰演的角色)希望戴斯蒙德·道斯离开营队?
"and I suggested that, in my opinion, Doss should be transferred." It should be noted that after later fighting alongside Desmond, Jack Glover's opinion of him changed entirely. "
是的,不过在一起并肩作战之后,Jack Glover改变了对他的看法,想不到他最后还救了Jack Glover一命。
11、召开听证会开除戴斯蒙德·道斯?
Yes, as his officers grew less tolerant of his refusal to bear arms or work on Saturdays, they convened a meeting to discharge him on a Section 8 for mental instability.
长官们召开听证会,希望以精神问题为由开除他。
' To me, I feel I'd be a very poor Christian to accept a Section 8 off my religion." Desmond told Colonel Cooney he would be just as good of a soldier as him. The officers relented and knew Washington would never approve a Section 8 solely on religious grounds.
但是他们也知道,如果只是宗教原因,华盛顿方面是不可能赞成这次开除的,所以最后妥协了。
12、因为拒绝持枪的原因被威胁送上军事法庭?
Yes, but things didn't escalate as far as they do in the movie. While training in the U.S., an officer by the name of Capt. Cunningham got into an argument with Desmond and told him only those men who participated in rifle training were allowed passes to go into town.
没有电影里那么严重。Capt. Cunningham威胁把他送上军事法庭,但被另一名长官制止了。不过后来Capt. Cunningham没有批准他回家探亲的休假。
13、父亲出面找前任长官改变庭审结果?
his father contacted the chairman of the church's War Service Commission in Washington, Carlyle B. Haynes. The chairman made a call to the regimental commander, Colonel Stephen S. Hamilton, asking if it was necessary for him to come investigate the situation with Desmond Doss.
首先道斯没有被送上军事法庭,其次现实中是父亲联系了教会的一位主席,主管战争事务的,这位主席又联系了部队的团长,最后争取到了3天的探亲假。
14、上战场前和多萝西的见面以及离别?
Yes. "When the train pulled out, I waved goodbye to her, and I tell you, it leaves you a very low feeling, knowing you may have seen your wife for the last time," recalled Desmond.
和电影里一样感人,而且当火车驶经家门口时,戴斯蒙德·道斯将字条绑在砖头上扔给了在家门口伫立眺望的父亲。
15、救助日本兵?
It seems likely that this is true, at least according to the stories told by some of his comrades who found an American bandage on an enemy soldier. "I don't know how bad the man was hit," said a fellow soldier, "but there was one found with a bandage on his arm, an American bandage."
情况基本属实。可能有一些简单的包扎,但是并没有像电影里的那样将日本兵从悬崖上运下来。
16、美国进攻冲绳的原因
A fact-check of the Hacksaw Ridge movie supports that the United States invaded the island of Okinawa in order to use the island as an air base for an invasion of mainland Japan
攻下冲绳,作为一处空军基地来使用。
17、钢锯岭有多险恶?
Okinawa's Maeda Escarpment is an approximately 350-foot high ridge that runs across most of the island of Okinawa. "The Japanese had been there for years," said the real Desmond Doss. "They had that mountain honeycombed and camouflaged, it looked like natural terrain. That's what we had to face."
Maeda悬崖(电影中的钢锯岭)是一座横跨冲绳岛的山脊,高达350英尺(106米),日军在上面布满了暗道,并进行了伪装。
18、攀爬悬崖用的网
Yes, and medic Desmond Doss was one of the three men who volunteered to go up the ridge and hang the cargo nets (something not shown in the movie). They were the same cargo nets that the men had used to climb down from the army personnel carriers into the landing crafts that took them ashore.
就是运输船上用于攀爬的网,而且是由包括戴斯蒙德·道斯在内的三个人负责悬挂的,电影中并没有展现这一情节。
19、戴斯蒙德·道斯在战场上杀过日本兵吗?
"Between me and my buddy was these hand grenades," said Desmond. "All I had to do was just pull the pin and I knew I had some Japanese." Realizing that taking out the enemy in the hole would protect his men from possible death, he later said that this was the greatest temptation of his life. "I thought of what I heard before, 'Thou shalt not kill.' God gave life and I didn't want to take life."
感谢网友@Samuel回复,这里应该是没有杀日本兵。
20、医疗兵是日本军队的重点攻击目标吗?
Yes. The Japanese focused on taking out medics in order to demoralize their enemy.
医疗兵确实是日本军队的重点攻击对象之一,目的是为了打击美军的士气。电影里有提到这一段,他们把所有会表明医疗兵身份的标志都去掉了。
21、队友撤退之后,戴斯蒙德·道斯还留在钢锯岭上救人?
"I had these men up there and I shouldn't leave 'em," said Desmond. "They were my buddies, some of the men had families, and they trust me. I didn't feel like I should value my life above my buddy's, so I decided to stay with them and take care of as many of them as I could. I didn't know how I was gonna do it."
确实如此,因为戴斯蒙德·道斯不愿放弃这些出生入死的队友。
22、戴斯蒙德·道斯真的是用绳索将伤员一个一个地运下来的?
Falling back on his experience helping rescue flood victims when he was younger, Doss fashioned a special sling that enabled him to lower the men one by one to safety.
戴斯蒙德·道斯利用自己以前在西弗吉尼亚州救助灾民时的经验,将绳索做成特殊形状,最后将伤员一个一个地运送了下来。
23、戴斯蒙德·道斯险些死于战场,因日本兵开枪时卡壳而躲过一劫?
While lowering the men down the ridge, the Japanese had a clear shot at Desmond Doss. Though it's not depicted in the movie, one Japanese soldier recalled having Desmond in his sights, but every time he went to fire, his gun jammed.
戴斯蒙德·道斯在悬崖边运送伤员时被日本兵发现,但日本兵每次开枪都会出现卡壳的情况,只能说上帝在保佑他。
24、总共救了多少人?
Doss estimated the number of lives he saved to be 50, but his commanding officer wanted to credit him with saving 100 lives, so they compromised at 75 (Library of Virginia).
自己估计50人,长官给他邀功100人,最后取中间值75人。
24、在战场上救人时情况有多危险?
"When you have explosions and bursts so close you can practically feel it, and not get wounded up there when I should have been killed a number of times. I know who I owe my life to as well as my men. That's why I like to tell this story to the glory of God, because I know from the human standpoint, I should not be here."
身边多次近距离的爆炸,但最后死里逃生好几次。戴斯蒙德·道斯花费12小时时间救了75人,平均约每10分钟救出一人。
25、现实中在攻打钢锯岭前有读圣经的片段?
Given that Desmond was the only medic left in B Company, he agreed to go but requested that he first be given time to read his Bible.
还真有,读完圣经才攻打,结果成功拿下。
26、戴斯蒙德·道斯最后被手榴弹炸伤?
So I just quickly took my left foot and threw it back to where I thought the grenade might be, and throw my head and helmet to the ground. And not more than half a second later, I felt like I was sailin' through the air. I was seein' stars I wasn't supposed to be seein', and I knew my legs and body were blown up.
躲避及时,只是炸伤腿和身体,大白天看见了星星。
27、最后还被日本狙击手补了一枪?
Desmond gave up his stretcher to the man, but while waiting for help to come back, he was wounded again, this time by a sniper's bullet that shattered his left arm.
将担架让给他人,在等待救援时被日本狙击手的子弹击中左臂。
28、圣经在受伤后丢失了?
Yes. In a letter home to his wife Dorothy, written on May 31, 1945, he informed her that while being treated on the hospital ship Mercy, he realized he had lost his little Bible when he was wounded.
确实如此,不过最后被B连的兄弟给找回了。
29、为什么戴斯蒙德·道斯在持枪问题上毫不妥协?
"I knew if I ever once compromised, I was gonna be in trouble," said Desmond, "because if you can compromise once, you can compromise again."
坚持信仰不动摇。
30、战后的戴斯蒙德·道斯
After WWII, Desmond received a modest pension from the military, but due to his disabilities from his injuries, his wife Dorothy got her nursing degree and had to work full-time to help with their income (in the movie she is already a nurse when they meet).
They grew their own fruits and vegetables to help sustain themselves and eventually farmed the land. Desmond also worked part-time as a cabinetmaker and tried various other jobs that his health would allow, including raising tropical fish, door-to-door sales, and working as a maintenance man.
战争致使戴斯蒙德·道斯的身体90%伤残,肋骨和肺损坏,花了五年半治疗,但过量的抗生素又使他失聪。后来多萝西做全职护士来养家,并且他们用保险金买了四亩地来支撑生活。戴斯蒙德·道斯也做一些力所能及的活来补贴家用。多萝西后来因乳腺癌和车祸去世,戴斯蒙德·道斯1993年再婚,2006年去世。
前后脚看过这两部电影的人,心里难免会拿它俩做比较。坊间还有八卦,说《比利·林恩》的制片人看过《血战钢锯岭》以后,果断决定提前上映。我想,传这则八卦的人,心里给这两部电影的打分,一定是厚此薄彼的了。
也难怪,两部电影都讲了美军在海外作战中的故事:《血战钢锯岭》发生在二战期间美日之间的冲绳战役,来自一则真人真事;《比利·林恩》则根据美国作家本·方汀2012年出版的同名小说改编,讲了几位美军在伊拉克战地归来后的故事。两部电影都传达了某种反战,或说是反思战争的理念。
按说,我并不怎么喜欢看战争片儿,《拯救大兵雷恩》、《拆弹部队》,这样的电影我几乎每看一次都睡过去一次。可能浓浓的雄性荷尔蒙让我觉得无趣,非要有一点儿什么超越战争本身的东西,那些是非不明的,才令我着迷。
这两部电影恰好如此。
但是我想,大部分人应该会喜欢《血战钢锯岭》更多一些,因为它更热血、更阳刚、更励志,是啊,它还谈到了信仰,不是吗?
还有什么比一个真实的、靠信仰而活、最后还赢得漂亮的故事,更能在这个叫人迷茫的时代,给人鸡血?
据说,这是第一次,电影非但没有夸张,反而拍得比真实情况打折处理收敛低调。历史上的主人公多斯(Desmond Doss)比电影里演得还要神。
多斯因为宗教信仰(以及童年阴影),长大以后坚决不碰枪。但是二战爆发,日本入侵珍珠港事件以后,他像其他爱国热血青年一样,也积极要求入伍,保家卫国。但,你一个当兵的不拿枪,算怎么回事?然而他愣是冒着违反军纪、被战友孤立(因为你不拿枪上战场到时候还能不能掩护战友还是添乱呢?),以及送上军事法庭的风险,死不碰枪。最后,他成了历史上第一个“良心拒服兵役者”(conscientious objector),就是上战场不拿武器只救人的士兵。其实在第一次世界大战时,已经有一位叫阿尔文·约克的人也这么干过,但最后他中途放弃了。后来,越战时,也有两位士兵效仿,但都在战场上挂了。只有多斯,活着回来,还活到了天年。
电影里那个悬在钢锯岭400多英尺悬崖峭壁上的网绳,现实中,其实是多斯和战友一起挂上去的。美军攻上悬崖,其实也并没有如电影里那样站稳过脚跟,而是一上去就被日本人击溃了。然后,就开始影片中那一段“神迹”——多斯没有跟着大家一起退走,而是独自留下来,在距离日军阵营只有不到十米的地方,在死人堆里翻找幸存的伤员,给他们包扎、打吗啡、输血,再来来回回一趟趟拖走一个个伤员,把他们送下悬崖。
最不可思议,他在枪林弹雨里忙活了十几个小时,竟然毫发无损。事后,还有自称狙击手的日本俘虏回忆,在钢锯岭见过这个不怕死的医护兵,但每次冲他开枪,子弹都卡壳(真的有上帝在保佑这个“傻瓜”吗?因为他真诚祈祷了?)。
他一共救了75个人,据称,这也是因为混乱,没有认真清点,谦虚处理报出的数字。
在电影结尾处,多斯因为一脚踢开一个手榴弹,手榴弹在空中爆炸,炸伤了他的腿。真实情况是,他原地等了5个小时,才有担架来把他抬走。但是没走几步,多斯发现有伤员比他严重,于是他爬下来,把担架让了出去,自己走下去,这时他又被狙击手打中胳膊,再次负伤。
电影结尾处,加入了对真实的多斯以及他战友的访谈记录片段。里面有一位提到这样一句话:“信仰,它不是简简单单的,它就是你自己。”
我是一个无神论者,不能理解和体会宗教信仰的力量,但是,这句话一定不止打动到我了。其实整部电影,哪里是在谈战争,分明是在讲一个少年,如何执着地相信一个简单的事,并把这件事做到了极致——少年派、阿甘……这样的故事,永远动人。
这可能也是很多人看完《血战钢锯岭》以后,会不那么喜欢《比利·林恩》了。因为,我们极难成为多斯,极难成为一个那样简单而执着甚至冒着二乎劲的人;而我们更多情况下是比利·林恩,左思右想、瞻前顾后——想对着心爱的女人说差点为了你停止流浪。然后对方一句:你说什么,你是英雄,你要回战场啊。只能惨淡地假笑一声:当然,我开玩笑的。
为了一份虚幻的荣耀,宁可被世界绑架。
李安,解读人性的大师,深深钻入了我们这些凡俗人士的灵魂。我们在他120帧/4k/3d的镜头后面,就像蹲在比利·林恩肩头的一只苍蝇,清晰地看到他经历的一切,感受到的何尝又不是我们每个人的悲哀。在简单而执着,和拧巴而纠结中,我们当然向往前者,却不由自主成了后者。
看《血战钢锯岭》的时候,不知为什么我总是想起读《罗马人的故事》,里面讲到第二次布匿战争时,29岁的汉尼拔率领迦太基大象军团,翻过冰封的阿尔卑斯山,像神鬼一样,突然出现在罗马人面前的样子。为了鼓舞在严寒与饥饿中濒临崩溃的士兵,汉尼拔说了这样一段著名的话。这段话太有名了,以至于2000年后拿破仑攻打意大利时,也站在阿尔卑斯山的山顶,对着士兵说了同样一番话:
“那儿就是意大利。只要我们进入意大利,就意味着我们站在了罗马的城门前。接下来,我们走的都是下坡路。下了阿尔卑斯山,我们只需进行一两次战斗,意大利就会投降。我们将是意大利的新主人。”
汉尼拔和拿破仑最终都失败了。可是,他们至少曾经赢过。而我们大多数人,既不敢输,也不敢赢。我们更多时候处于重返战场前的中场休息,进退维谷。
只希望,不会活成卡夫卡笔下的这种人生:
”大多数人其实根本不是在生活,他们就像珊瑚附在大礁石上那样,只是附在生活上,而且这些人比那些原始生物还可怜得多。他们没有能抵御波涛的坚固的岩石,他们也没有自己的石灰质外壳。他们只分泌腐蚀性的黏液,使自己更加软弱、更加孤独,因为这种黏液把他们和其他人完全隔离开来。”
不要。
看完觉得吹牛啊,结果片尾出现正主时震惊了,再一查历史,真实道哥居然比电影里还开挂,真死人堆里爬出来的。当下好莱坞难得一见的右派电影,梅尔吉布森甩掉了神神叨叨,拿出宗教信仰和残酷战场,战争场景真实血腥,令人发指的牛逼 #这战争场景要是3D高清估计得看吐了#
这部电影工整的格局,宏大的场面和充沛的感情都足以让人重拾久违的心潮澎湃,尤其是战争题材才能带来的那种感动。宝刀不老的梅尔.吉普森用这份“老派”的扎实再次诠释了“勇敢的心”:真正的勇敢并非骁勇善战,而是无论何时何地都不忘初心,坚守信仰,并秉持自己始终不会放弃的那份纯粹。
观众纷纷表示:前一个小时简直昏昏欲睡。你看,不管是屏幕内外,大家关心的、想看的都只是流血、战争与死亡,没有人关心你的选择和信仰
1.战争场面确实不错,子弹穿透头颅以及被炸毁的半个身子。2.感情线的设定有一种豁出去的庸俗。
李安想告诉我们英雄是会软弱会迷茫的平凡人,梅尔吉布森告诉我们英雄都是神一样的人。但是这部片的好处是,同样是展现人的神化,它可比手撕鬼子的剧真实多了。大概是因为真正的神从来不觉得自己所做的一切常人难以企及,他只是谦卑地认为自己做的还不够。克制是最大的美德。
枪林弹雨过,片叶不沾身。信仰没能改变战争,但也没让战争改变自己。梅尔·吉布森的宗教狂热病和个人英雄主义都让我想BB,但因为有本命在闭着眼睛也要给五星啊~(只有加菲才能这么一脸阳光的面对杀戮和暴力,五好青年的笑容太美!!!)
“每个人的信仰都值得尊重,这就是最真实的我们” 我操,好久没看到如此热血经典范儿的电影了!复古老派,却看得老泪纵横。继上一部导演作品《启示》后,阔别十年的梅尔·吉布森依然出手不凡!恍惚在看2016的《地心引力》《勇敢的心》《拯救大兵瑞恩》《辛德勒的名单》…(短评也得老干部一点
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有个印象很深的片段,首战第一晚他与战友两人坐在战壕里,战友开了一个罐头问他怎么不吃。满脸黑漆漆战灰的道斯笑着摆了摆手说:我不吃肉。多么可敬的人啊,他的信仰无法改变战争,而战争却拿他看似最普通的信仰也无可奈何。
谁告诉我加菲猫的哥哥最后去哪了?
以我有限的观影经验,优秀的战争片不会美化战场,不会粉饰死亡,不会矮化敌人,不会无视常识,最重要的,不会宣扬战争。这个片子基本都做到了。
特别老派的热血直男片,甚至觉得叙事目的性强烈到有些直白。然而,就是好看。前半部分就是压制观众情绪,后面的战争就是帮主角和观者释放,去证明主角。战争场面太硬了,血腥可怕,看到紧张,如炼狱一般。我认同他的那些信仰?胡开尔啊!真正让人激动的,还是见证普通人创造的奇迹,因为这是真的。
这部片子最牛逼的,把钢锯岭拍成了寂静岭,把鬼子拍成了鬼。第一次被一部战争片的恐怖场面吓到,感同身受于士兵的恐惧。
真实故事非常值得尊敬,但是这种满屏飞肠子的宗教狂热/主旋律的抗日神片风格实在不能认同。槽点多到数不过来,加菲主角光环大到可以徒手接手榴弹,队友捡回来的圣经可以直接穿越成入党申请书,日军智商战斗力全程不在线,没烧悬崖边的绳索,也不知道往下扔炸药包,啊…还有那迷之展开的感情戏…
3.5 前半小时和爱情戏俗得发指,从入伍开始才走上正轨,上战场就很好看了,虽然时不时出现的槽点还是会让人出戏,但最后成功被煽到。Bromance基友的存在感和感人程度抵十个女主告诉我不是一个人。对加菲的印象也大有改观。
没有真人真事加持,你真会觉得,梅尔·吉布森是一枚假天主之名的神棍。当真实不可思议到某一个程度,你就会觉得,它怎么可以比电影还假啊。但这么老派的关乎个人信仰的电影,傻纯真的故事,看起来还是令人动容。电影是《全金属外壳》的两段式结构,大段的平静和抗争后,突然进入手撕鬼子的地狱模式。
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青少年时期及父辈们的经历,永远是艺术家创作的源泉。看外国老一辈导演们的“老派”作品,当然有着强烈的共鸣与认同感,同时也为自己一代人由于时代的限制,在创作上的无语和失职而感伤。